Yesterday's Toledo Blade had another article about the Ice House and what the possibility of a two rink skating facility at the new Marina could do to their business. I'm not sure if this area can sustain an additional ice facility or not, but what I do know is the give a way's that Woodlands Consulting Group is looking for have never been offered to the Ice House:
"Basically, from the city, we are looking for shared parking and the tax abatement, which is crucial. We haven't decided how we are going to do the land, whether we are going to lease or buy it. Certainly, we would like to see the land as a gift. Some of the things we were looking for are low-interest loans and that comes through the state and the city also providing an economic development loan," said Jerry Jones (the main consultant for the investors and chief executive officer of Woodlands Consulting Group ).
One wonders what kind of improvements the Ice House could have made if they had been given such an offer and why one Toledo Business could potentially be sacrificed for another courtesy of funding thru tax payers. If one business is created and thru fair competition results in a closing that's the market and supply and demand, yet when a company who pays taxes in Toledo sees tax dollars spent to create their competition? Understandably the owners of the Ice House are not happy.
Then today, somewhat related to the arena:
University of Toledo alumnus Chuck Sullivan and his wife, Jackie, longtime supporters of UT athletics, showed their loyalty and commitment to the university yesterday by agreeing to donate $6 million, $5 million which will be designated for renovations and planned additions to Savage Hall.
The Sullivans' generosity toward the UT athletics department was motivated, in part, to put an end to any discussion about UT athletics, particularly men's and women's basketball, playing home games off-campus, possibly in a yet-to-be-de-termined sports arena in downtown Toledo.
"I wouldn't have given them anything," Mr. Sullivan said in response to being asked if he would have provided such financial support to UT athletics if future plans involved playing off-campus. "They wouldn't have gotten my money. This [Savage Hall] is a good building here. This building just needs some work. It doesn't need to be torn down."
It would appear any future arena plans that would include UT are now officially over, what affect that will have on arena plans is too early to tell.
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is that the same jerry jones who just got appointed to the seagate convention board? doesn't he serve on the county economic development board too?
Good question...
LCIC board...
It's not clear from his bio:
Woodlands
Jerry Jones, President & CEO, formerly an executive with The Toledo Blade and previously with Toledo Scales and Owens-Illinois, has lived in Toledo for over forty years. He has served on boards of the Ohio United Way, Boy Scouts of America, American Red Cross, Toledo Mud Hens and The Humane Society. Presently he is an adjunct professor at the University of Toledo, where he has taught for 22 years, and a professor of Marketing in the MBA program at the University of Findlay, where he has taught for 8 years. He is a graduate of The University of Toledo.
Appears from this he could be the same person but that makes me wonder why he doesn't list LCIC on his bio.
I don't think that adding an ice rink on tax dollars is anywhere close to a good idea. I don't see a huge need for a dual ice skating rink unless we were planning on starting an olympic training center. Sounds to me like a big waste of money. It doesn't sound like these people have a plan anyway.
We haven't decided how we are going to do the land, whether we are going to lease or buy it.
Is there really a demand for this sort of thing? If there was I don't think that they would need all of these abatements and such.
Whatever happened to that ice rink behind the O-I Building in that reflecting pool?
Whatever happened to that ice rink behind the O-I Building in that reflecting pool?
It melted in the 95 degree heat yesterday.
Mark Chandler- good point about the cost to the tax-payers. With TPS in such dire financial straits and lousy roads, and a minimum police and fire staff, an ice rink reminds me of the $38,000 uplights on the islands on Jackson.
The folks on Crawford, Birdie, Sulgrave, Custer, and other flooded neighborhoods don't have ice skating on their minds at this time. They'd like their ditches and storm sewers fixed.
Yes, Jerry Jones is on the LCIC as a representative appointed by the county.
Lisa,
Did this Jerry Jones character, (now the main consultant for the investors and chief executive officer of Woodlands Consulting Group, formerly LCIC board member, currently Seagate COnvention Board member, also formerly on the board of the United way, former executive of the Toledo Blade, former board member of Ohio's Umited Way, former board member of the Boy Scouts of America, former board member of the Toledo Mud Hens, former board member of the Humane Society, former professsor..., yadda, yadda, yadda, happen to present this proposal by perhaps pulling it out of a carpet bag?
Something smells kinda fishy about any proposal where the proposer is looking for low interest loans, shared parking, tax abatements and, oh yes, maybe free land.
If the concept were so sound and the plan so beneficial to Toledo and Toledoans, then why don't we duild the damn thing ourselves and hand it to them along with the abatements, loans, etc. (That last paragraph was sarcasm)...
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